I’m not gonna go full attack rant on this one like feminists do it for every little shit out there, it’s just an interesting observation while I was writing responses on this topic in my browser and decided to go and test all the other major browsers as well…
When talking gender equality issues, words like “misogyny” and “misandry” often come up. “Misogyny” means hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women, or prejudice against women, where “misandry” means hatred of men (funny how definition is a lot shorter for men). Definitions taken from dictionary.com
Now, here is the interesting observation that web browsers or shall I say dictionaries in them are sexist. They acknowledge the word “misogyny”, but they don’t do the same for “misandry”. They underline it with red and offer you correction. I’m using US English dictionaries. Lets see what they’ll offer me as correction for my “misspelling”…
Firefox 34.0.5
Nice job Firefox, offering me what is essentially a female name as correction for a word that defines hatred of men. Bravo you sexist bastards. 😀
Chrome 39/Iron 39 and possibly every other Chrome based browser
Yup Chrome, you clearly did misaddress the spelling error…
Opera 12.17 (Presto engine)
Opera, in a Scandinavian tradition went brave. So many things to choose from. Too bad they are all incorrect…
Opera 26 (WebKit engine)
The latest Opera was a bit more conservative, omitting the “syndrome” option.
Yup, patriarchy is clearly working /sarcasm, if none of the browser dictionaries even acknowledges the word “misandry” as a correctly spelled word. And to take things further, not even WordPress dictionary acknowledges this word…
WordPress
What a misery…
Feminism conspiracy I tell you that!
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Perhaps not. Misandry isn’t a word.
At least not in the same way misogyny is. Misogyny is the systematic, ingrained hatred of women in terms of class and power in society. The current class system – a patriarchy – systematically favours/benefits/is on the side of men, they are the privileged class.
Women do not get these systemic advantages as they are in the oppressed/inferior class within said patriarchal society.
The privileged class, by definition, cannot be oppressed. Thus for ‘misandry’ to be a word browsers would recognize, we would have to be living in a matriarchal system.
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Sorry but that’s utter nonsense. Type “misandry” in every proper dictionary and you’ll get a definition. Just because feminists say it doesn’t exist, it doesn’t mean it’s true. And we know how feminists very often twist the words in their favor). Entire patriarchy nonsense is entirely feminist grown thing. How can we talk about patriarchy when women have every single right men do and more (modern western world only plz). Pay attention to word “more”, because when you’ll be fighting for child’s custody in our court, in massive majority of cases, women will get a custody automatically, just because she is a woman. When it will be a 50/50 option, then I’ll listen. But until then, sorry, not interested in feminist bullshit. I haven’t been protesting against it so far, but when people start to throw things into my face “just because male” and “patriarchy”, then I just can’t be silent about this rather critical thing (kids are very important imo). What’s worse in our country, it often doesn’t matter what a child wishes. Even if child says he wants to be with his father instead of mother, he can only make such decision when 18 years old and legal to make decisions about their life. Until then, the child is pretty much automatically given to a mother whether he likes it or not (unless a very clear case is presented where mother is unfit for such role). That’s frankly just sick, but yeah, clear case of patriarchy, right?. And child custody isn’t the only example…
Men and women are very much equal, it’s just that they aren’t in twisted feminist reality. And 3rd world countries. I’m not denying inequalities there. But we aren’t in the 3rd world countries and those are problems of the 3rd world countries women. As harsh as that may sound, it’s the reality.
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If your understanding of concepts and how they are applied in society begins and ends with a dictionary then I imagine that you think you’ve scored a point here. Congratulations.
Actually it is a “history grown thing”. You can, if you wish, consult the historical record and you will see that patriarchy has been a thing for centuries.
On paper. Yet men still make more than women doing the same occupation, men are the vast majority in politics, hold most of the top positions in the corporate /financial world, are the majority in the legal system, STEM fields…et cetera. One doesn’t need to look very far to see the conditions in society that favour and predicate men.
Wrong.
“Perception: the courts are biased against fathers, who almost never get custody.
Fact: Though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. To establish bias, one must show (at the very minimum) that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and here the data prove inconvenient. Courts can’t be expected to award what they’re not asked to. It turns out that fathers who ask for custody (and don’t give up) are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.
I doubt very much that you’ll actually evaluate the evidence but as a heads up, using MRA talking points about child custody doesn’t really help with regards to establishing the veracity and importance of your argumentation.
It would seem that facts that you don’t agree with become “feminist bullshit”.
Convenient.
As the study linked to says, it is often the woman the requests custody and persists in obtaining it. When men bother to do the same, they often get the same result. I’m sorry if the reality of the situation does not agree with your world view.
Feminism is about abolishing the oppressive structures in society, institutionalized racism, sexism and of course patriarchy are all on the list because they hurt women and men.
Please, illuminate me on these other topics. I’m very happy to go through them with you and help find the truth of the situation.
Your argument is not congruent with reality. See my previous paragraph starting with “on paper”.
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I had to approve this just so I could respond to it. But, are you yet another of those feminists who can’t see 2 meters ahead of you, let alone to the sides. The wage gap has been debunked and proven not to exist like billion times and yet you stampede into my blog with the same crappy arguments all feminists use. Is there a “Feminists generic response guide book” that hasn’t been updated yet or something? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have two female coworkers and they both earn exactly as much as I do. My boss is a female (i think she is like the 7th female boss) and guess what, she is awesome like all the ones before her. There is no oppression going on. At least not where we live. And where you live. Unless the place where you live is middle east.
There are no concepts. Words are definition of their meaning and their application. There is no hidden concept apparently only known to you behind them.
Patriarchy may have been proven by history, but why don’t you just let it remain there? You’re like those conspiracy theorists crazies who see oppression in everything. Seeing how young fathers raise their kids and help their wives or girlfriends and how even myself was raised in a family where my dad also did all the “feminine” jobs around home, I can hardly see it happening. You can’t judge the majority by few macho dorks who still run it patriarchy style. If you look a bit, the majority these days are those who love their girls and wives and embrace them the way they are. Feminists are the only ones still stuck in the 18th century. The rest has moved on.
Jobs opportunities? Are you kidding me? Who is preventing you from running for a mayor, president, lead researcher in the lab or CEO? The way I see it is your lack of interest for those positions or the feminists. There is no other thing preventing you from reaching for those jobs. Do you know how many female school mates I had that are now in way better jobs than I am? I work in a big corporation where majority of key positions are covered by women. My boss is a woman. And I’ve had tons of female bosses before her. Yeah, total oppression and patriarchy. Those men holding women from high pay jobs… Why don’t you just admit it that you’re just plain lazy or uninterested to work in such jobs? I’m man and I can openly admit that I’m lazy and if I showed even a bit more interest, I could get a much better paid position. Want more? I’ve had a female coworker who joined the company where I still work few months after me. And she’s now a department manager assistant and I’m still the bottom feeder. Should I be jealous of her achievement? No, I was surprised. In a positive way. I was happy for her to get promoted so quickly, because I know she was a really nice girl that I loved to work with. And apparently she worked well and displayed enough competence for her to be awarded with higher job position. No matter how much feminists say oppression is there, I’m just not seeing it. Anywhere. Why have you opted for a kindergarten role when you could be a lab researcher in a high pay pharmaceutical company? You know you could get that job just as likely as any man, if you just showed some interest in it. But hey, whining is so much easier than actually doing something about it.
Why men don’t ask for child custody? Well, I already told you how things go in my country. Don’t you think that’s the main reason why majority of men just say: “Well fuck all that, it just isn’t worth my time if the outcome is already declared ahead.” I see it that way, you apparently have your version of it.
Made up “facts” aren’t facts you know and maybe that’s the reason why I call them bullshit.
Feminists don’t care what hurts men, they just care what hurts women. Men should just die. That’s the impression I got from their compassion towards men displayed by the lovely feminists.
My reality is just fine, but I’m questioning yours. I’ve just given you few more actual real world examples. They are not just some made up theories and “on paper” stuff, they are real world observable cases that clearly display oppression of women. Oh wait, there wasn’t any oppression. You rather believe what feminists are bitching about than observing the actual world around you with your own eyes and your mind. Don’t be a brainwashed sheep and think with your head for once?
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Again, calling factual arguments “crappy” does not change their veracity. I did some ‘intensive’ googling and came up with numbers from the Bureau of Labour Statistics</a? and another from Market Watch.
These sources would indicate that the purveyor of crappy arguments might not be this particular feminist. Of course if facts don’t matter, then indeed we are at a stand still.
Because in your small corner of the world two female co-workers make the same as you invalidates the statistics that show women as a class are paid less then men. Do you also firmly believe that since there is no war in your city, war therefore does not exist?
Cool story, bro.
Anecdotal evidence is precisely that – one particular iteration of an event. It isn’t good enough to generalize from. What if your female coworkers make more than you – would you say that all men were being discriminated against?
Okay here is a definition of Stoichiometry:
Stoichiometry is the calculation of relative quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions.
Do you have enough information to make generalizations about it? I mean the definition is right there – can you use it appropriately and with a proper understanding of how it fits into the field of chemistry and how it relates to other fields?
The same applies to feminism – there is no magic – you are just ignorant of what it is, nor will you bother to find out,
Not looking at or deliberately ignoring power gradients in society, doesn’t make them go away.
What? No one told me Feminism was over in the 18th century. I mean women were still property then, had almost no rights, were not allowed into higher learning.
History, clearly, is not your strong suit. I would advise against trying to use it to prove your points as you often manage to prove only the converse of what you are saying.
Wow, I bet that works for people of colour too. They all must be lazy, nothing at all to do with the society around them.
Because things are not real unless you witness them – damn I guess the Civil War didn’t happen either since you weren’t around for that either.
Whether or not *you* see oppression is irrelevant to any sort of meaningful discussion in this context.
Well you did indeed “tell” me, and I brought evidence to the table – that you could independently verify – that shows that what you said is wrong. So bring something other than your opinion to the table because it is most certainly not fact.
“Because I say so” isn’t an argument. 🙂
Really? You might want to back that up with more than your hurt feelings? Provide some evidence that ‘teh evil feminist conspiracy’ really is out to get you might be a place to start that discussion. Just do it quietly – they are listening right now….
You’ve given me unverifiable anecdata while I’ve provided concrete studies and statistical evidence from sources that you can review yourself to determine their merit.
Essentially you’ve brought nothing to the table and are mad because the world as it is, doesn’t fit into your version of reality.
I got a new irony meter for Xmas, and you now dun gone and broke it. It wasn’t even out of the packaging… *sigh*
Thank you for the stimulating discussion, and all the best to you in the New Year.
Sincerely
‘teh Evil Femini’….I mean the Arbourist.. 🙂LikeLike
It’s just that everyone observe that, my 3 examples are just a tiny part of what everyone are observing. Except feminists of course.
Oh and the data you’ve so kindly provided doesn’t mention anything regarding critical information like, how many hours a week men did and how many hours a week women did. If that info is not present, it’s like comparing apples to oranges. It’s where major part of difference comes from. You should check sources like I don’t know, Christina Hoff Sommers? She explained it like billion times in several sources. Backed with academic data.
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